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Mocha's avatar

Nobody craves male attention more than men. They love to assume that all women want them etc but honestly they love putting other men on pedestals. That’s also why concerns by women can get more easily brushed off. I’ve had to have my dad talk on the phone on my behalf for complaints multiple times just because they’re not taken seriously when i voice them myself. Women complain, men critique. They live in an echo chamber constantly trying to please and impress each other.

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Tami's avatar

“Women complain, men critique” is so painfully true. I feel like that’s also the case for Matt thinking women only like him for “the wrong reasons” which I assume he implies that women are only fans because he is somewhat attractive but that also ignores the fact that there are queer men who could also only be interested in him because he’s attractive. Though queer men are also often socialized as being women so the loop just keeps going and going

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JoJo_727's avatar

ugh This is a topic that bothers me sooo much lol. I'm a woman, and I love Kpop, so I'm VERY familiar with the ridicule that comes with it. It's just this notion that nothing is ever good if "little girls" like it because how dare they have a personality outside of men.

I read a post about this once that men are more desperate for male approval than women could ever be. A man will buy a fancy car because his friends will think it's cool. He'll go for the prettiest woman because his friends will think he's cool. He'll get in shape to appeal to other mens' expectations. Men shame other men for being "weak" i.e. showing emotion.

He wants his platform to be one like a "hangout with the bros"? To do what? To get away with the sexist shit he says bc he knows women won't approve of it? Since they already get "icked out" i don't think it's too far fetched... And wtf is "pure reasons" supposed to mean?? God forbid women like something..

Soooo much (internalized) misogyny there.. because women are so inferior and dumb and superficial that they can't genuinely enjoy something, amiright?

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ambers_asleep's avatar

I know this is why the worst of men platform people like Pearl, they find neiche examples of their harmful ideology and parade around, "look a woman agrees with us it must be because even women know we're just being honest". It's so sad that other men have to make saviours out of people like that to explain to themselves why they feel alone and unaccomplished. If they genuinely just improved their doomer mindsets and moved on to thinking about how to contribute to society productively they could do so much good with their influence, reaching out to the other men who listen to them.

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lelia's avatar

As an overweight teenage girl living in the year of 2024, I can confidently say that the patriarchy is winning the internet. I swear, me saying that I am overweight is important. Men have since the start of the internet just been putting each other up.. while putting women down. The amount of comments made by men I see on a video of a man doing blatant sexual assualt and playing it off as a joke laughing, saying that it was funny... but if a woman did a video of the exact same thing, they'd all get their pitchforks up and get ready to BURN the witch ! And with the whole Matt Rife situation, I'll be completely honest. I did not hear anything about it. I might just be on the wrong side of the internet, but that sends a message to me about what the internet is, honestly. I had heard no problems about the Matt Rife situation (and during a LIVE performance too? How much of an asshole do you have to be?) .. but I distinctly remember nearly every single male just overall SHITTING on Amy Schumer. I hate her, I don't find her funny, I have never found her funny but it is mind boggling to think about just how ignorant men are. A man makes a domestic violence joke (which shouldn't even be considered as a joke), "haha yes, you know everything" a woman makes a stupid, unfunny joke (still morally better than the domestic violence joke) and .. the world is going crazy. Now to go back to the overweight comment I made in the beginning of this comment, I have noticed how differently the internet reacts to overweight men and women. I am not obese persay, but I am also not percieved pretty enough to be considered "healthy" or "pretty" (since the internet has just clumped those two together, how being healthy just automatically = pretty). My nickname back in elementary school was meatball. A boy, roughly 3 times my size was just called.. heavy. How does that even fucking work? And you don't even need to do your study on it. Go to any video of an overweight woman and man and just compare the comments and you'll see just how different it is. Anyway, this has turned into a rant. I would say more, but this comment would be three times it's size.

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maya musing's avatar

Yup that what I usually tell my friends : men love men. Not in a bromance way or whatever. But men (most of them at least) have the most respect to other men, it's an automatic response at this point. It's a response that's rarely automatic when it comes to respecting women. And that's so frustrating.

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May Flower's avatar

I never decided to write a comment so fast in my entire life. I rarely write comments on certain topics, but in this case, if I get to write about this one guy (Matt Rife) that I dislike, then I'm in.

So bear with me, it's a long story.

I'm Italian, and most of the content I consume is in English, so I know everything that I need to know.

There's no way I would have known about Matt Rife one way or another—I'm Italian, not American—but still, I got to know him.

You might ask yourself how.

I follow this actor on Instagram (I still follow him, even though I think he's a bit dumb, so ignore the Matt Rife thing, but holy hell, that was a mess).

I wouldn't say I'm a very big fan of this guy right now, but still.

While I was studying, I got a bit distracted and saw the story of this same actor (keep in mind, he has a younger sister) basically praising Matt Rife and saying: "Look guys, there's his stand-up comedy on Netflix, if you wanna watch it...".

It was the one described in the article.

"Why not?" I said to myself. The lesson was becoming pretty boring, and I was in an online class, so I didn't care and went on Netflix.

I opened it, and the first thing he said—I don't remember exactly what it was but I think it was what the article describes—stunned me.

The whole domestic violence approach, really had me like this 😱,

How the hell was he on that stage!?

Maybe it's that I'm used to other types of comedy? Maybe it's that I'm Italian?

Nope, it wasn't that.

I was really icked and also trying to understand what the hell was going on.

Because I told myself:"Nah, maybe it's just me not understanding english for one time".

Unfortunately, I understand english really well.

After that, I was really bummed with that same actor, like: "Why are you telling me to check out Matt Rife?"

When I read about the things he said and did (Matt Rife, not the actor, lol), I was amazed that he was still there putting himself on the stage.

How the hell, people payed?! It's not my money, I can't judge but questions need to be asked.

I think I wrote the same thing twice, but understand my point of view, because after a few days or even the day later, articles started to pop up about Matt Rife, criticizing him in every way, tiktoks even and I was like: "Thank God" there are sane people out there.

But you might ask what happened in the fandom of that actor I'm in? Other fans (maybe even US fans) haven't complained about him sharing about Matt Rife. And there I was, the only girl sharing stuff about it and telling people: "Hey guys, maybe you should know this?"

No one batted an eye, no one.

Most of all, a lot of people who are in another fandom called the version of this actor's character: "Matt Rife's version" without knowing this, like, lmfao.

I don't know how much the next part of the story is related, but to add the cherry on top of this, during this time, if you follow cases of homicides and stuff like that, there was this young girl (one or two years older than me), Giulia Checchetin (God bless her), who died due to her ex who wanted to kill her (and he did) because she left him.

There were guys (probably incels) supporting the killer on FB and other platforms. The fuck?

And I told this to my friends who didn’t know Matt Rife, and all of this together made me feel sick—discovering Matt Rife and seeing this homicide at the same time really gave me an outlook on how shitty and scary these behaviors are starting to be.

At the end of all of this, as a woman, I never felt so unsafe to even follow a guy that I genuinely liked because of his career but even to get a boyfriend (I can't generalize for everyone but it felt sickening).

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karla báez's avatar

this was a genuine jumpscare on my substack timeline

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lesbian elitist's avatar

Shanspeare!!! I found you!!

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Ball Of Consciousness's avatar

I was literally thinking about it this evening

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